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<h1 id="chat-control---what-comes-next">Chat Control - What comes next?</h1>
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<h1 id="what-is-chatcontrol">What is chatcontrol?</h1>
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<li>EU law to protect children against sexual abuse in the context of the internet</li>
<li>Sounds good? Well, actually...</li>
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<h1 id="let-me-use-a-meme">Let me use a meme ...</h1>
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<h1 id="let-me-use-a-meme-1">Let me use a meme ...</h1>
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<h1 id="let-me-use-a-meme-2">Let me use a meme ...</h1>
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<h1 id="let-me-use-a-meme-3">Let me use a meme ...</h1>
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<h1 id="that-doesnt-make-any-sense">That doesn't make any sense?</h1>
<p>We need to go back in time to explain this</p>
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<h1 id="the-internet-where-people-post-cat-pictures-and-bad-stuff">The internet: Where people post cat pictures and bad stuff</h1>
<p><img src="img/gwbush_internets.jpg" alt="auto" /></p>
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<h1 id="service-providers-keep-a-clean-house">Service providers: Keep a clean house</h1>
<p><img src="img/platforms_free_from_evil.jpg" alt="auto" /></p>
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<h1 id="csam--child-sexual-abuse-material">CSAM = Child sexual abuse material</h1>
<ul>
<li>Terminology: &quot;child pornography&quot; sounds too harmless according to some</li>
<li>A &quot;child&quot; is any person under the age 18</li>
<li>Scope: Digital display of sexual acts and organs that include minors</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="not-only-publicly-shared-contents">Not only publicly shared contents</h1>
<p><img src="img/ceiling_cat_private_messages.jpg" alt="" style="height:400px;" /></p>
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<p><img src="img/countryballs_legal_basis.png" alt="auto" /></p>
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<p><img src="img/surprised_pikatchu_blurry.jpg" alt="auto" /></p>
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<h1 id="chatcontrol-10-is-born">Chatcontrol 1.0 is born</h1>
<p>Art. 5(1): Confidentiality of Communications<br />
Art. 6: Confidentiality of traffic data</p>
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<h1 id="chatcontrol-20">Chatcontrol 2.0</h1>
<ul>
<li>Will supercede the temporary chatcontrol 1.0</li>
<li>New: Services <em>must</em> scan when given a <strong>detection order</strong></li>
<li>Attack on encryption: Communication/original data <em>must</em> be scanned.</li>
<li>Fundamental technical and legal problems:
<ul>
<li>Scanning contents not possible without breaking or circumventing encryption</li>
<li>Untargeted surveillance not compatible with EU law</li>
<li>Lots of experts from different areas say this is a bad idea</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="chatcontrol-a-logical-fallacy">Chatcontrol: A logical fallacy</h1>
<ul>
<li>CSAM on the internet is a real problem</li>
<li>This does not imply that surveillance is the solution</li>
<li>It implies that we need to think about meaningful solutions</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="meaningful-solutions-require-an-understanding-of-the-problem">Meaningful solutions require an understanding of the problem</h1>
<ul>
<li>Child sexual abuse is a very difficult topic to talk about</li>
<li>Limited public knowledge</li>
<li>Legal minefield</li>
<li>Very emotional topic (think of the children!)</li>
<li>Do politicians understand the reality of the problem?</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="reading-literature">Reading literature</h1>
<ul>
<li>Written by a journalist who reports on crimes in darknets</li>
<li>Describes circumstances for child abuse offline and online</li>
<li>Explains how predators think and operate</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="csam-can-be-spread-under-many-different-circumstances">CSAM can be spread under many different circumstances</h1>
<p><img src="img/the-iceberg.svg" alt="" style="width:700px;" /></p>
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<h1 id="trying-to-get-a-full-picture">Trying to get a full picture</h1>
<ul>
<li>Criminal pedophiles are a real problem that needs to be addressed</li>
<li>About <strong>half of the suspects</strong> investigated by the police are minors according to German criminal statistics</li>
<li>Laws need to take into consideration the side effects they have</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://netzpolitik.org/2024/sexualdelikte-zum-nachteil-von-minderjaehrigen-was-die-gestiegenen-fallzahlen-bedeuten/">https://netzpolitik.org/2024/sexualdelikte-zum-nachteil-von-minderjaehrigen-was-die-gestiegenen-fallzahlen-bedeuten/</a></p>
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<h1 id="darknet-csam-forums">Darknet CSAM forums</h1>
<p><img src="img/darknet-forum.svg" alt="" style="height:500px;" /></p>
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<h1 id="achilles-heel-of-csam-forums-storage">Achilles heel of CSAM forums: Storage</h1>
<ul>
<li>Visual content is expensive: Space and bandwith</li>
<li>Donations are risky, because they leave a trail. <strong>Very tight budget</strong>.</li>
<li>The journalist reported all URLs to the file hosters. Very quickly taken offline!</li>
<li>URL takedowns contributed significantly to downfall of the CSAM forum.</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="why-csam-darknet-forums-are-probably-popular">Why CSAM darknet forums are probably popular</h1>
<ul>
<li>Anyone can join (as opposed to closed chat groups)</li>
<li>More people can contribute content</li>
<li>Content can be downloaded on demand, all local data is volatile</li>
<li>Police is not issuing URL takedown requests</li>
<li>People can move to another forum if one is taken down and repost URLs</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="what-about-end-to-end-encryption-in-private-chats">What about end-to-end encryption in private chats?</h1>
<p>Criminal pedophiles who chat with other criminal pedophiles ...</p>
<ul>
<li>know they are hated by everyone else</li>
<li>apply additional layers of encryption</li>
<li>prevent the software or network from reporting any hits</li>
</ul>
<p>Chatcontrol will be very ineffective here</p>
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<h1 id="back-to-the-legislative-process">Back to the legislative process ...</h1>
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<h1 id="the-3-important-eu-institutions">The 3 important EU institutions</h1>
<p><img src="img/institutions.png" alt="auto" /></p>
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<h1 id="the-commissions-chatcontrol-20-proposal">The Commission's Chatcontrol 2.0. Proposal</h1>
<ul>
<li>Mandatory detection in places on the internet with significant risk of CSA(M)</li>
<li>Automatic reporting of hits to EU center (part of Europol)</li>
<li>Encrypted communication must also be scanned</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="negotiations-in-the-previous-eu-parliament">Negotiations in the (previous) EU parliament</h1>
<ul>
<li>Lots of heated discussions</li>
<li>Things that got removed: Untargeted surveillance, client-side scanning, mandatory age verification for communication services, blocking content (delete instead), age restrictions for messenger apps</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="negotiations-in-the-eu-council">Negotiations in the EU Council</h1>
<ul>
<li>Failure to reach an agreement in the last 2 years</li>
<li>Proposal from Commission mostly unchanged</li>
<li>Hungary has presidency until end of year</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="foul-compromise-upload-moderation">Foul compromise: Upload moderation</h1>
<ul>
<li>It's not legal to do mass scanning</li>
<li>Get permission from people to have their messages scanned</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="img/cookie_banner.svg" alt="" style="height:300px;" /></p>
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<h1 id="next-step-the-trilogue">Next step: The Trilogue</h1>
<ul>
<li>Council finds compromise <img class="emoji" draggable="false" alt="👉" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/jdecked/twemoji@14.1.2/assets/svg/1f449.svg" data-marp-twemoji=""/>️ Council, Parliament and Commission need to find an overarching compromise</li>
<li>Trilogue not visible to the public</li>
<li>Afterwards: Additional readings in parliament and council and potential adoption if there is enough agreement</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="the-public-and-chatcontrol">The public and chatcontrol</h1>
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<ul>
<li>Much public criticism from digital right groups and the pirate party</li>
<li>Several letters from world-leading cryptographers explaining that this is a terrible idea</li>
<li>Statement from the german Kinderschutzbund that they don't think that chatcontrol helps children</li>
<li>EDRi: <a href="https://edri.org/our-work/most-criticised-eu-law-of-all-time/">Is this the most criticised draft EU law of all time?</a></li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="ashton-kutcher">Ashton Kutcher</h1>
<ul>
<li>American TV Star</li>
<li>Founded &quot;NGO&quot; Thorn. A software company to fight human trafficking and other abuse</li>
<li>Has easy access to Commission</li>
</ul>
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<p><img src="img/safer_how_it_works.png" alt="auto" /></p>
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<h1 id="hashes-as-indicators">Hashes as indicators</h1>
<ul>
<li>Chatcontrol proposal: &quot;the EU Centre will create, maintain and operate databases of <strong>indicators</strong> of online child sexual abuse that providers will be <strong>required to use to comply with the detection obligations</strong>.&quot;</li>
<li>Hashes (&quot;Indicators&quot;) are inherently tied to a (possibly proprietary) algorithm</li>
<li>If scanning becomes mandatory, there are only very few software companies that can provide scanning software</li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="commission-does-not-adhere-to-good-administrative-standards">Commission does not adhere to good administrative standards</h1>
<ul>
<li>Austria complained to EU ombudsman that not all meeting documents with Thorn were published</li>
<li>Commission argues that &quot;disclosure would undermine the <strong>comercial interests</strong> of the organisations concerned&quot;</li>
<li>Ombudman's Assessment: The law would very likely affect citizen's day-to-day life by limiting their <strong>right to privacy</strong> and that is why public discourse about these documents is meaningful.</li>
</ul>
<p>12.7.2024: <a href="https://www.ombudsman.europa.eu/en/decision/en/189484">https://www.ombudsman.europa.eu/en/decision/en/189484</a></p>
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<h1 id="ashton-kutcher-resigns-from-thorn">Ashton Kutcher resigns from Thorn</h1>
<p><img src="img/apology.png" alt="" style="height:400px;" /></p>
<p>Writing a letter of support for a rapist didn't end well</p>
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<h1 id="a-new-eu-commission">A new EU commission?</h1>
<ul>
<li>Current Commission will stay in office until around the end of the year</li>
<li>Ursula von der Leyen<img class="emoji" draggable="false" alt="🇩🇪" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/jdecked/twemoji@14.1.2/assets/svg/1f1e9-1f1ea.svg" data-marp-twemoji=""/> got reelected yesterday and will rule for another 5 years</li>
<li>Ylva Johansson<img class="emoji" draggable="false" alt="🇸🇪" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/jdecked/twemoji@14.1.2/assets/svg/1f1f8-1f1ea.svg" data-marp-twemoji=""/> will very likely be replaced by Jessika Roswall<img class="emoji" draggable="false" alt="🇸🇪" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/jdecked/twemoji@14.1.2/assets/svg/1f1f8-1f1ea.svg" data-marp-twemoji=""/></li>
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<h1 id="what-to-do-now">What to do now?</h1>
<ul>
<li>Keep talking about it. We need more media coverage!</li>
<li>Support organisations that fight for digital rights.</li>
<li>Suggest meaningful child protection on the internet</li>
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<h1 id="meaningful-child-protection-on-the-internet">Meaningful child protection on the internet</h1>
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<li>Anonymity is a virtue on the internet, especially for children.</li>
<li>Education for teachers, parents &amp; children about (online) abuse</li>
<li>Sexual abuse is usually a question of power assymetry.<br />
Empowerment of potential victims helps prevention!</li>
<li>Make it less taboo to talk about the risk of child abuse</li>
<li>The police should delete content!</li>
<li>Minors need to learn that sharing other's nudes, is neither funny nor okay</li>
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<h1 id="meaningful-use-of-ai-for-child-protection">Meaningful use of AI for child protection</h1>
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<li>Detect when the user wants to upload nudes and inform the user why this might be a bad idea (client-side)</li>
<li>Detect grooming/sextortion and inform the user (client-side)</li>
<li>Do NOT automatically send data to the authorities.<br />
-&gt; Let user actively report or block instead</li>
<li>Make your voice sound older with an AI</li>
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<h1 id="questions">Questions?</h1>
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<h1 id="apple-tried-to-develop-similar-hashing-software-but-gave-up">Apple tried to develop similar hashing software but gave up</h1>
<p><a href="https://thishashcollisionisnotporn.com/">https://thishashcollisionisnotporn.com/</a></p>
<p>hash of real CSAM: 59a34eabe31910abfb06f308</p>
<p><img src="img/cat_collision.png" alt="" style="width:180px;" /> <img src="img/dog_collision.png" alt="" style="width:180px;" /> Hash collisions are impossible to avoid, because we try to project an infinite space into a finite one.</p>
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<h1 id="upcoming-dates">Upcoming dates</h1>
<ul>
<li>10-11 October 2024: Planned presentation of Council Presidency progress report and discussion of EU interior ministers on mandatory chat control (chat control 2.0)</li>
<li>12-13 December 2024: EU interior ministers scheduled to adopt mandatory chat control (chat control 2.0) position</li>
<li>tbc: Envisaged trilogue negotiations on the final text of the Chatcontrol 2.0 legislation between Commission, Parliament and Council, as well as adoption of the result</li>
</ul>
<p>Info from <a href="https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#timeline">https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#timeline</a></p>
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Much abuse has an offline element
and potentially no online element
What information is the commission using to make decisions?
Some abusers care about power and not pedophelia</p></div><div class="bespoke-marp-note" data-index="18" tabindex="0"><p>Red: Illegal intent
Black: Legal intent
Yellow: Legal pedophilic intent
Below the surface: Not affected by chatcontrol</p></div><div class="bespoke-marp-note" data-index="26" tabindex="0"><p>technologically neutral. Not requirements to scan a certain way but the scanning must be effective.
Official name: Laying down rules to prevent and combat child sexual abuse</p></div><div class="bespoke-marp-note" data-index="27" tabindex="0"><p>https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/historic-agreement-on-child-sexual-abuse-proposal-csar-european-parliament-wants-to-remove-chat-control-and-safeguard-secure-encryption/</p></div><div class="bespoke-marp-note" data-index="28" tabindex="0"><p>current comparison of negotiation states:
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#currentproposal
A lot of positions of the council are the same as the commission</p></div><div class="bespoke-marp-note" data-index="29" tabindex="0"><p>Still legally questionable if it is a true approval
- Scanning URLs implies scanning text meant to be encrypted
- Deleting known CSAM-URLs would be a better idea</p></div><div class="bespoke-marp-note" data-index="33" tabindex="0"><p>https://netzpolitik.org/2022/chatkontrolle-wie-ein-hollywoodstar-fuer-mehr-ueberwachung-wirbt/</p></div><div class="bespoke-marp-note" data-index="37" tabindex="0"><p>- &quot;That 70s show&quot; co-star Danny Masterson on trial for rape
- After writing a character letter in support to him, there was a huge public outcry
- Kutcher published an apology video that was very poorly received
- Kutcher resigned from Thorn</p></div><script>/*!! License: https://unpkg.com/@marp-team/marp-cli@3.4.0/lib/bespoke.js.LICENSE.txt */
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